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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2008, 22:39:09 pm »
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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2008, 00:28:06 am »
Gentleman,

Please stay at topic!
I want to read about facts. So please leave your ego,s at home.

I am sick and tired of these kind of conversations.
You all know it. Dankie, i hope for you that alienxxx is willing to answer here some questions.......i am not amused with the way new members are handled by you.

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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2008, 01:30:48 am »
Gentleman,

Please stay at topic!
I want to read about facts. So please leave your ego,s at home.

I am sick and tired of these kind of conversations.
You all know it. Dankie, i hope for you that alienxxx is willing to answer here some questions.......i am not amused with the way new members are handled by you.

steve

Dont worry its just HMS-776 pretending ...

I know its you Hydrocars ... no need to hide behind Lightbulb... if you have a problem just say so...

I will not be deviated from my project , i have already been informed of the truth by somebody who  "really" has more electronics wisdom in his pinky than all of us , and this is not some made up lie

You do your thing and i do my thing ... Hope to see you at the finish line

Its time for people to get busy this holidays , time if of the essence ,  we need a major evolution i'd be happy for people to replicate your work ...

Now stop with the bullshit , either you have something major to contribute or i will make it happen this holidays with my injector and the help of other adventurous experimenters who believe in me ... I have been right so far , lets hope it doesnt stop there .

I intended to plan an group experimentation that i believe  100% we can achieve this holidays and share info while we do  , but if you wish to do so plz  , the spotlight is all yours !


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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2009, 06:31:47 am »
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On the journey of Discovering Stan meyers circuit i had noticed that not only did i discover what stan was doing but i also noticed there are others out there that do also understand what was done! Why this information has not been Brought to our / WFC research groups attention i can not understand. There are very few that Understand his work, and by no way is the information hidden but simply overlooked. However i do agree that this type of technology has been kept away from man kind for centuries by our governments.

It has been found that without the use of RESISTANT wire there will be no resonance . !  Also The fuel cell is part of the resonant circuit normally referred to as a condenser. The fuel cell will resonate with the Resistant Coil forming and LC circuit, Therefore the input power to the circuit is DC, during resonace the Resonate CHOKE is powered by AC from a DC source Due to resonance. 

I have not built a Meyer's cell yet to do actual real world testing.  That is in the works.  However I have  done hundreds of   Spice models of Meyers'  different circuits.  In Spice,  adding series resistance to the resonant chokes  does  have some effect  in reducing current and increasing voltage.   However,  the inductance value has more
effect  than resistance .  Inductive impedance has a similar effect to pure resistance.    in t he tech brief,  he mentions  11.8K ohms per choke for resistance .   Do you realize how many turns (feet )  of SS wire that is?   The inductance  value of the  chokes will be function of  umber of turns  vs permeability of the core material chosen, the cross esctional area of the  core and the magnetic length of the core.    Resonance  will be a function of  capacitance , inductance. and frequency.     In one of the videos Meyer  says in effect that he added the high resistance  wire to cover  his patents,  that it was not really necessary.  Spice modeling has shown that to be true.   In Spice,  I can  easily get  3.5kv output across 1 microrfarad f cap from a 10 volt input .   That is with using copper wire in the chokes, and calculating    the resistance based upon  wire diameter and length.  So, I would not be so swift to  say that only SS resistance wire in the chokes will make the VIC work.     The early patents make no mention of the SS resistance wire. 

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A demo circuit of a Fuel cell in Resonance would Be as followed.

1 RESISTIVE Choke hooked in series with the fuel cell, then to the 12v battery supply. Simple setup, take the coil and cell and hook in series. Then hook the Remaining Terminals to the battery. The resonate Freq is controlled by Dead Shorting the Condenser, Fuel cell. Upon Dead short Coil is Charing, Upon Release Cell is charging, A resonance occurs! This will result in the coil powered by AC even though the power source is DC. It is said to be high Freq.
   

I have a Spice model that shows resonance with only pure DC applied to the  VIC circuit.  If anyone is interested  I will send them the Spice file..  You will need LTSpice from
 Linear .com .  The  frequency of the resonance depends upon the inductance of the chokes and the value of the capacitor. 
 
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Furthing findings is is shortly related to That of Sr's Power inverter Ignition circuit able to Blow water up on demand. It is clear that a Strong capacitor discharge is needed in order to do this. Examples could be charging up a capacitor to 250 volts and then dead shorting it under water, the amount of energy released is so powerful that water blows up instantly on demand. However the Capacitor discharge is coming from the inverter many fail to Replicate it. All though im not sure of his Newer version of the small coil in his videos, its almost as if he was making jokes.
   

How do you propose to dead short the capacitor under water ?   Charging the cap  to 250 volts is the easy  part.  Making it  "dead short" would not be.   Wouldn't  the shorting be a function of the  "Dielectric Strength"  of  the dielectric,  which in this case is water ?     Have you actually done this or are you  offering  an untested  hypothesis ?

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However The Fuel Cell resonate Circuit Is unique and does relate to discharging a capacitor under water to gain explosions of water. It is problem matic to use Capacitors for discharge, what i believe to be the Vic is much better. The way the circuit is setup due to resonance Water can be exploded on demand far greater than what normal discharge capacitors can do. These circuits also relate to FREE ENERGY and much more. *  3 phase is related as well.
 

 I agree that the VIC circuit is unique., and that  it is problematic to discharge a water capacitor ( on demand).  However  I think it is a leap to conclude that  there is the ubiquitous  "Free Energy"   involved.   That is unless you have an actual system up and running that can demonstrate this.  (i.e.   over unity. )

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To further understand The VIC, To understand where Free Energy comes from, to understand how to place a freq across a fuel cell and get it to resonate all the circuits are clearly the same. I honestly think this is some of the circuits hidden away from us that we shouldn't be getting our hands on.

To understand what is going on, what can be done and what you lack. Please look very very very very very hard at the old time Auto ignition circuit. Learn that the Coil is powered by AC and not DC. Also learn how the auto spark works. And most of all remember, to get this type of resonance i believe you have to have resistant wire!

The auto ignition circuit is labeled as an LC circuit! For less confusion ignore magnetos.

If this post did not seem like the most important post you have read in this wfc technology, then i highly suggest you read it again. Then if your still skeptical i suggest you get an ignition coil and a battery, a Normal AC UNIT capacitor and find you some schematics and start playing. This circuit is clearly resonating. Without Resonance you would not be driving your car down the road! ! ! 

There is no mystery or magic involved with an LC resonant circuit.   There is  nothing magical about an auto ignition circuit. or a CRT flyback circuit that delivers over 20KV  to a  CRT.  However, using a water capacitor as the C in the LC circuit is  somewhat novel.  Others have used water as a dielectric for making high voltage  in the past ( Google "J.C Martin" )  But ....... based upon what I have seen so far duplicating Meyers'  claimed results   is elusive and difficult based upon the seemingly ambiguous data in the patents, briefs and videos.     So pardon me if I am not so sure that  yours was to most important post ever  concerning the WFC.   However I will take it under advisement .   

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Blowing water up on demand DC is no longer good, AC WILL overtake DC and When the public scientist start to realize what is going on this Technology WILL SKYROCKET!
   Are you saying  that  you can crack water with AC ?   Since water as a dielectric is highly  polar in nature,  how do you propose that ?    Meyer insisted that it took unipolar (  DC)  pulses for his technology to work. 

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It was hard for me to share this information because i have not yet tested every technique, But i have tested enough to see that this is the road your gov's dont want you to take, I highly recommend you look very deeply into what i am pointing out to you.

Now what i know, and what i am working on right now has become public, a very large auto ignition circuit is under investigation.

When you have  actually tested  your theories and and have actual results please make the data public. 

Bill