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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #112 on: June 11, 2018, 20:46:35 pm »
is good to understand how the things work but is not what we want when we simply want to build something.. a good schematic sometimes get some great result in learning,,,

dealing with electronics is a pain in the *  if you dont know what you r doing.. i can tell you that i spend literaly tens of thousands of dollars burning components until i learn how to use them a little better
 
i highly suggest that you go and understand how a mosfet works how many volts you need to turn it on how high voltage or current it handle and how to protect the mosfet from burn while pulsing coils

the main ingredient in safety are resistors diodes tvs diodes and capacitors

also other coils on the same core can be useful directing the energy in other direction than the switch that will break if you gone wild

is really easy actually



i tried to read what he explained to you but for me is a bit confuse so i could not understand the schematic at all

i guess he was playing you or was confuse himself with the explanation


first thing to notice is that an scr is not going to open the ckt unless the voltage between anode and cathode is small enough to not allow a hold current..


using inductors wisely is possible to even switch dc with them but it takes some work to do it

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #113 on: June 12, 2018, 08:13:35 am »
It would be good for a few people draw simple shematic or how wires are connected from two SCR to WFC how you see ti even if they don't think that it is possible.
My mistake i did not immediately ask someone who understand it.

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #114 on: June 12, 2018, 09:58:10 am »
is a bit confusing what the guy says but mainly what i understand from it is that you need to power up the cell and when it is disconnected it will be connected to a external coil having an incandecent bulb attached to it

it appear to me he try to take the back emf of the cell itself out generating power somehow,..

the cell is basically a resistor when water is very pure the voltage will be proportional to the amps flowing thru it

when water has a base or acid it will have free ions and their movement will cause a current to flow..


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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #115 on: June 13, 2018, 09:44:19 am »
is a bit confusing what the guy says but mainly what i understand from it is that you need to power up the cell and when it is disconnected it will be connected to a external coil having an incandecent bulb attached to it

it appear to me he try to take the back emf of the cell itself out generating power somehow,..

the cell is basically a resistor when water is very pure the voltage will be proportional to the amps flowing thru it

when water has a base or acid it will have free ions and their movement will cause a current to flow..

when we apply energy to a capacitor some energy is lost when charging it related to the resistive losses

there is even a situation possible to calculate when a charged capacitor is connected to another of the same size  half the energy simply disappear mathematically however is not dissipated its a matter of destroy the electromagnetic energy such as happen with wave interference.. the back emf voltage itself stops the current when the capacitors reach the same level..

with inductor the voltage is not in the same direction because as i tried to explain before in other posts the inductor works by separating a charge density in the metal this causes the charges to have a attraction to each other inside the coil itself so when we disconnect the source they simply volktage go backwards but in the in the inductor case backwards is in the same direction for the electrons

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #116 on: June 15, 2018, 23:30:30 pm »
just a link with the best frequency generator with gating option and Eec ......
http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,2643.0.html


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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #117 on: June 17, 2018, 23:50:22 pm »
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"The WFC Circuit is just a Rectifier & Two ‘Stanley Meyer High Voltage Switches’ where one Switch Charges the WFC Gated at LC Resonance with an 8XA Coil & the other Switch ‘Short Circuits’ the WFC & by-passes the 8XA Coil at LC Resonance into an external ‘Light Bulb & Battery Array’ Load as the Electron Extraction Circuit… A Variable Inductor is used for Tuning the Circuit. This is Very SIMPLE & will produce a Minimum of 300% Faraday’s to 1,700% Faraday’s simple Electrolysis at around 0.05 Amps or 1/20th of an Amp… Once this is understood, you can start using Toroids, Ignition Coils or Tesla Coils."


"All you need is the 'Potential and the Frequency'. The Electrons can come from the Power (Enslavement) Grids Neutral, an Earthed Rod in your Back Yard or the Covalent Bonds in Water itself. In Auckland New Zealand and Darwin of Australia people have been using the 'LIVE' Phase connection from the Power Grid and an Earthed Rod as a Neutral to power their Hydrponic Lights for years... In New Zealand a guy in debt to a Motor Cycle Gang gave them A Box that when connected to a 'LIVE'  Phase and a separate Earth powered a Warehouse with Electrons from the Earth ...All your interested in is the Potential and Frequency
Just look at (Google) 'A Vector Potentials'.?
If you have the original Lawton PLL you can hook up to any switch directly from the Diode Light to an optociuple. If you have the original SCR you can hook the Diode Light up to the side connections that you'd normally connect any Frequency Generator to.?
So you have your Dave Lawton Pll just remove the Switch and connect three wires that you can then connect to your optocouple. Easy!... you really need to Switch BACK-EMF Im-Pulses and not Hot Electricity from a Variac.?
If you understand how to remove the LED and hook it to your SCR then all you do is build two SCR Circuits and instead of using an SCR you pick out a PNP and an NPN so you get an alternation using the same signal. So one Switch Charges the WFC and the other Switch Short Circuits it using a Variac Transformer. The gist of it, is Charging the Water Fuel Cell then Short Circuiting it, the PLL will do this automatically... The reason Faradays Electrolysis gets Hot is because it is the Load, using the Stanley Meyer method the Load is external to the Water Fuel Cell, it still uses Amperage but externalises the Heat/EM Losses component into a Light Bulb... It's like Charging a Battery and it gets Hot because it is the Load while its Charging but, when you discharge the Battery like in a Laptop the Pentium Chip gets Hot because it's the Load and the Laptop Battery remains Cold to touch, so a Stanley Meyer Water Fuel Cell externalises the Load. Once you get this, then you'll get that the most efficient way to charge a Capacitor that stores Charge is to use Back EMF Im-Pulses then you'll see your efficiencies increase! ... It's all about externalising the Heat component then increasing the efficiency of the Cell, my Cells hooked up to a 3.25 KVA generator- if School Girls in Africa can build this SHIT with Junk Parts anyone in the Western World can build this!?
... The simplest way for you to hook it up is, instead of the PLL Switch going to the Cell, you need to remove that Switch. You need to directly Switch your Optocouple so you need to remove that Switch and Solder it up yourself because it is a NEGATIVE Switch. Your just making it hard for yourself not removing the Switch from your PPL Circuit because you need that Positive Signal. Once this is done you'll have Two POSITIVE Switch outputs: 1. The Light Emitting Diode & 2. The Positive Signal that previously Switched the NEGATIVE Switch that you have now removed. SIMPLE! If you built your own SCR Circuit you can easily build another one OK. ... You need a NPN so you can collect the Back EMF Im-Pulses off the NEGATIVE at Switch Closure using Blocking Diodes on the Negative. ... You also need a PNP and what this does is it only Switches ON when the Pin is NEGATIVE so the same signal Switches Two separate Switches. The NPN Charges the Cell with Back EMF Im-Pulses and the PNP Short Circuits the Cell with a Light Bulb on the Positive of the Cell to CONSUME all Amperage from the Water Fuel Cell... Its NOT Rocket Science!?


All you do is remove it and you need the Potentential and the Neutral and you can use the one signal to power two seperate Opto-Couples with one Opto for the NPN which has Diodes off the Negative of a Coil to collect the Back-EMF Im-Pulses that go to the Positive of your Water Fuel Cell and the Negative Side of your Water Fuel Cell is connected to the Positive Side of your Coil... I know this sounds like it doesn't make sense but, the Water Fuel Cell is only being Charged with Back EMF Im-Pulses when the NPN closes. then seperate to this the other Opto is for the PNP which has a Light Bulb on the Positive Side of the Water Fuel Cell then the PNP. SO WHEN THIS IS FED WITH A SQUARE WAVE YOU GET AN ALTERNATING SIGNAL : P, N,P, N, P, N, P ECT.  you can even Postulate the OFF NPN's Back-EMF Im-Pulse takes place while the Short Circuit PNP is On and therefore the Light Bulb is powered by the Back EMF Im-Pulse but it can't because theres no Amperage therefore the Amperage can only come from the Water Fuel Cell Capacitor. during its Short Circuit. You'll know when its built right"



it took a while, but here is my schematic on how i think you can explain what the videomaker is doing.
I use back emf for charging the WFC, as i have done years ago, so i know it works.
In addition, i added the EEC in such a way that the charging of the coil and the discharging of the WFC are in Phase 1.
In Phase 2, the WFC gets the BEMF to charge.

I added the lawton pll output from the hef4050b chip pin2. If the mosfet is still on the board then please remove it (62N15P). Pin 2 goes to that mosfet....
BTW, any other squarewave frequency generator will work. It doesnt have to be a PLL Lawton board.
Feel free to ask any questions.......

cheers!
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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #118 on: June 18, 2018, 00:00:21 am »
and here the simulator text file. For the simulator link, see on top of the Forum, on the right.

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #119 on: June 20, 2018, 22:56:15 pm »
More info:

I use the Ion Generator from Oatley Electronics (Australia) to Negatively Charge the intake Air.

How the Covalent OFF Switch works!

Radiant Energy is basically Back-EMF & the purpose of the 8XA Tesla Choke is to dampen the Back-EMF Im-Pulses from detonating (Exploding) the Water. Meyer explains that the High Voltage Field induces ‘Electron Movement’ within the Water Molecules/Atoms causing the Water to Split. In 2005 Naohiro Shimuzu discovered that ultra-short pulses with a width of 300ns has the ability to Split Water. The dominant theory is that, of a Bloch Wall being a pure Potential Field that exists at the centre of the Electrodes that effects the Covalent Bond Electrons (Consumed by a Light Bulb) & this causes the Water to breakdown into HHO Gases.

All you do is you take Water & you expose it to Radiant Energy (Back EMF Im-Pulses) & you get FREE Electricity by the Water Fuel Cell Capacitor acting as a Converter compressing this Radiant Energy into Amperage during the ‘Short Circuits’ & a by-product of this process is FREE HHO Gases.

Basically if NO Electrons are entering from the Cathode, then the Electrons are then ‘RIPPED’ from the Water to fill the Holes in the Anode & as you pull Covalent Bond Electrons from the Water, the Water Molecules will Break Down into HHO Gases. First you’ll have an Ionisation when Water loses one Electron & then you’ll get a Dis-Association when they lose two Electrons. All the Electrons are built up & then they’re drawn off from the Circuit in what is known as the ‘Electron Extraction Circuit’ & this Energy is powering a Light Bulb & an optional Battery Array.

So you get FREE DC Current off the Water Fuel Cell in direct proportion to the amount of HHO Gases that is produced. You could have a Water Fuel Cell & the Current that comes off this Charges a Battery Array & the Batteries could be connected to an Inverter that then Powers an entire House. Allot of people have already used these extracted Electrons from Water to power Motors & Fans.

Firstly Water is an Un-Limited supply of Covalent Bond Electrons & then Secondly as a by-product of this ‘Electron Extraction’ FREE HHO Gases are produced. The decomposition of Matter is really about the Decomposition of ‘Creation’ & then using these extracted Covalent Bond Electrons as a Power Source. The significance of this is ‘Mind Blowing’. A Tesla application of this Technology was called the Cathode Ray Propulsion which decomposes Matter in the direction of Travel. I’d read about the theoretical aspects of this back in the early 90’s which just seemed too Fantastic to believe way back then.