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it runs on battery power!
« on: December 30, 2016, 19:47:43 pm »

Dear members,

After looking at the dealership tape 1, at 9:20, you can clearly see the hugh battery that ran this version of Stan Meyers buggy.
Its plain electrolysis with watervapours.

No magic here.


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Max, please remove that utterly stupid text of these videos. What did you want to prove here? Very disturbing.
Appreciated if you can do that.
And also appreciated the posting of these vids.



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Re: it runs on battery power!
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2016, 20:14:11 pm »
Looking further the dealership tapes.
Why are parts taken out, Max?
Why dont we see the complete video's?
Please explain...
Thanks

Steve


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Re: it runs on battery power!
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2016, 00:17:42 am »
It's that kind of thing that makes no sense....To be that bluntly obvious in not really wanting others to succeed and at the same time want to make a name for themselves.....It's the most aggravating thing but anymore it's just plain funny :) who in the right mind would want and try so hard to make that kind of name for themselves ??? Gotta be a Democrat BAHAHAHAJAJAJA LOL

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Re: it runs on battery power!
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2017, 08:34:09 am »
It would be nice if I could run my truck on batteries without having to change the engine to an electric motor.  But even if I could, how big would the battery need to be?  With a lead/acid battery, the basic rule is that if you don't want to ruin the battery, you can only pull 1/20 of the amp hour rating.  This means that a deep cycle battery rated at 100 Amp/hrs will only be good for 5 Amps, on a long term basis.  (I know this is true because I have a bunch of dead batteries sitting around.)  So, a 100 hp motor would need a 12 Volt lead/acid battery which would be rated at 125,000 Amp/hr.  His battery doesn't look anywhere near that big.  There must be something besides the battery powering the motor.  Perhaps it's cold fusion, just as Stan says?

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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2017, 11:56:06 am »
good remarks.
However. Stan didnt made long runs.
Just some minutes of driving for the show.
That battery of him could easy made that happen....
But again. Maybe his later systems were selfsustaining.

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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2017, 06:09:55 am »
Thanks Steve.  And thanks for posting the video.  It clears up a few points.  Stan's discussion of the Electrical Polarization Process gives the impression that it would be more accurate to say that the covalent bonds are "defeated", by increasing the distance between the atoms within the water molecule, rather than "switched off", which implies something mysterious.  Another important fact is that the pulses are being produced by a motor driven alternator.  He says the voltage - and the gas production - can be increased by using a larger pulley on the drive motor.  Spinning the alternator faster will increase its output voltage, but that would also increase the frequency of the pulse trains.  So the Water Fuel Cell doesn't have to be frequency dependent (based on electrode spacing).  This version doesn't operate in resonance.

The motor driving the alternator looks like it's between five and ten hp, by comparison to a golf cart motor's physical size.  This motor is the primary load on the battery.  So the difference between this motor's power and that of the engine is absolute proof of significant Over Unity in the system's operation.  Stretching the water molecules until they fall apart takes considerably less energy than is given back by burning the resultant gasses.  However, the power of the engine itself is unclear.  A 1500 cc VW engine is normally around 100 hp, which is much more than would be needed for the size of this vehicle.  Although Stan says the engine is unmodified, he also says it acts as an air pump, along with the mechanical output.  This reminds me of a jack hammer compressor, which is a V8 engine running on four cylinders, with the other four cylinders configured as the air compressor.  Depending on how much compressed air is needed, he may just be using two of the cylinders for the compressor.  So the vehicle's actual power could be between 50 and 75 hp.  Which would be plenty, and still definitely OU.

Stanley Meyer came up with something really important.  It's unfortunate that his business philosophy was "Demonstrate the prototype, then constantly improve it before marketing".  What he has in this video could have been put into production, as Model A, then improvements would have insured an on-going market.  And it would have been ON the market.

One part of the video which is a little ambiguous is it looks like they take a gasoline tank off after the engine gets started running.  Does the engine need to get up to speed (on petrol) before it can be switched over to water?  Would a starter tank of compressed air make a difference?

All in all, this video is very helpful, and I really appreciate the efforts of everyone down the line who made it available.

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Re: it runs on battery power!
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2017, 03:25:07 am »
How much redacted is this video? It looks like the "Big Bertha" .