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Re: Ball Lightning's Rainbow (Magnetic Interrupter)
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2016, 01:25:55 am »

does the mag field originate from the bound electrons of the conductors both sides of the gap ?

The Lorentz Force expels electrons from the arc and it's the movement of these electrons towards the positive electrode, together with the opposite movement of the positive ions within the spark which produce the rings of flux around the arc.  When the T spark is allowed to go to either electrode, rather than to the arc, there is no magnetic interrupter effect.  Then it's just a normal non-feathery spark, at a higher potential than the circuit voltage since the potential of the capacitor's stored charge is added to the supply voltage.

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faraday was dislecsic so his writings were nothing like what we read today

Roughly half of the commercial/industrial electricians in Phoenix are NOT dyslexic.  :)  The rest of us can very carefully figure out a complex pipe bend (conduit), then bend it backwards.  (If construction workers were normal, we wouldn't be working outside of society, with very little public contact.)  And I once glanced at a sign which said smile and it looked like it said slime.  Then I realized that I was seeing the word backwards, with the first and last letters also reversed.  So I looked at it again and it still said slime, with the l and m reversed.  I consider this ability to be an advantage, in some ways.  And I do have to proof read and edit each of my posts a number of times, to make sure I get everything right.
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Re: Ball Lightning's Rainbow (Magnetic Interrupter)
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2016, 11:14:12 am »
I am interested in how this project will develope towards the usuage in creating cheaper Hydrogen or in creating an Hydrogen isotope...
Its a bit out of my current technical scope, but i will follow happely all posts here about and will jump in if i can add something positive..

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Re: Ball Lightning's Rainbow (Magnetic Interrupter)
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2016, 15:51:15 pm »
I am interested in how this project will develope towards the usuage in creating cheaper Hydrogen or in creating an Hydrogen isotope...
Its a bit out of my current technical scope, but i will follow happely all posts here about and will jump in if i can add something positive..

Cheers!

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The main thing I'm looking at is using a magnetic interrupter to produce a pulse train from a longer pulse, such as Fabio was getting with his Giant bifilar coil.  On the other hand, one type of charge pump was once tested by an independent testing laboratory, hired by Bing Crosby, and found to be 25,000 percent efficient.  (250 times more output than input.)  With that kind of free energy, any electrolysis system can power our engines.  More specifically, Meyer doesn't show a circuit which is capable of removing electrons from a water bath, without replacing them from the other electrode.  A charge pump can do the job, but that should actually be in a different thread.

I'm still thinking about ions and isotopes.  I've recently read that as little as .4 V can change which isotope is affected, or, perhaps, produced.  Herman knew all the isotopes and all the voltages, due to his work with nukes.  (Voltage actually equates to impact velocity.)  (First you ignite [ionize], then you detonate.)  With my own patent (4,260,933) water splits into one H and one OH at 2100 Angstroms, which is a specific color.

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Re: Ball Lightning's Rainbow (Magnetic Interrupter)
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2016, 03:56:17 am »
Hi Jerry..... interesting patent you have from soooo long ago, nice to have someone here with that much experience !!!

The circuit you said to be looking for,am I understanding it 2 be two sine waves with just different amplitudes?

If you can draw the waveform and post a picture Im sure a circuit can be constructed to deliver the signals.

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Re: Ball Lightning's Rainbow (Magnetic Interrupter)
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2016, 12:25:53 pm »
I am interested in how this project will develope towards the usuage in creating cheaper Hydrogen or in creating an Hydrogen isotope...
Its a bit out of my current technical scope, but i will follow happely all posts here about and will jump in if i can add something positive..

Cheers!

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The main thing I'm looking at is using a magnetic interrupter to produce a pulse train from a longer pulse, such as Fabio was getting with his Giant bifilar coil.  On the other hand, one type of charge pump was once tested by an independent testing laboratory, hired by Bing Crosby, and found to be 25,000 percent efficient.  (250 times more output than input.)  With that kind of free energy, any electrolysis system can power our engines.  More specifically, Meyer doesn't show a circuit which is capable of removing electrons from a water bath, without replacing them from the other electrode.  A charge pump can do the job, but that should actually be in a different thread.

I'm still thinking about ions and isotopes.  I've recently read that as little as .4 V can change which isotope is affected, or, perhaps, produced.  Herman knew all the isotopes and all the voltages, due to his work with nukes.  (Voltage actually equates to impact velocity.)  (First you ignite [ionize], then you detonate.)  With my own patent (4,260,933) water splits into one H and one OH at 2100 Angstroms, which is a specific color.

Just a question for teasing the brain:
We know that water is self ionizing and that the hydrogen jumps from oxygen to oxygen.
The oxygen with temporary one electron less, will look for a new one. Normally, it will be a covalent bond with an hydrogen atom.
But what if:
We are able to put extra electrons in the waterbath?
Does the oxygen atom then steals the hydrogen atoms electron or will it go for the smaller free electron?
Or am i on a totall wrong thinking path here?

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Re: Ball Lightning's Rainbow (Magnetic Interrupter)
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2016, 02:25:59 am »
Just a question for teasing the brain:
We know that water is self ionizing and that the hydrogen jumps from oxygen to oxygen.
The oxygen with temporary one electron less, will look for a new one. Normally, it will be a covalent bond with an hydrogen atom.
But what if:
We are able to put extra electrons in the waterbath?
Does the oxygen atom then steals the hydrogen atoms electron or will it go for the smaller free electron?
Or am i on a totall wrong thinking path here?

Similar to regular electrolysis, if free electrons are put in the free oxygen ions will take them, removing the attraction to the hydrogen ions.  This will produce very few bubbles, unless other electrons are taken out to make more oxygen ions.  Otherwise, time will have to go by for a while, as the water slowly re-self ionizes.  This will still produce very few bubbles in a reasonable amount of time.  And the end result would be that all released gas would be non ionized molecules.  Then we can't get any explosive thermal energy, beyond that of regular combustion.

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Re: Ball Lightning's Rainbow (Magnetic Interrupter)
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2016, 22:01:03 pm »
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thats an acheivement getting a patent . I had a look 4260933 = 1979! 
then I had a look on wiki , "they" dont know what BL is .... my interpretation is then maybe they do  ;)
also on the wiki page is an experiment over water dish = max planck institute

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning

I cant get my head around a suspended arc . fundamentals = a neg charge electron is attracted to a pos charge .
a lightning strike / electron flow is going from neg to pos , so BL is what ?   a charge going no where

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Re: Ball Lightning's Rainbow (Magnetic Interrupter)
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2016, 17:21:52 pm »
thats an acheivement getting a patent . I had a look 4260933 = 1979!

Thanks.  Back then, there wasn't any Internet so I had to keep up by reading the weekly Patent Gazette at the Boise, Idaho public library - even some of the back issues.  Once I ran across the Imris Tube patent (3,781,601) from 1973 I didn't waste any time filing my own patent.  Both patents, his and mine, use a triangular outer grid with a cylindrical inner electrode, to provide a broad spectrum resonance.  However, circular grids can be used for a specific, fairly low frequency resonance, if you know what it is.

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then I had a look on wiki , "they" dont know what BL is .... my interpretation is then maybe they do  ;)

I agree, based on some of the stuff I've seen.

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also on the wiki page is an experiment over water dish = max planck institute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning

I used to follow what was then called the annual International Symposium on Ball Lightning.  The wiki list is fairly complete, and my favorites were the Dynamic Capacitor Model of Ball Lightning (naturally occurring Electrostatic Inertial Confinement fusion, for propelling a "High Performance Manned Inter Planetary Vehicle"), and the Light Sphere SPL (Special Pattern of Light).  Energy entering into the SPL never leaves, no matter how much is added.  It just rotates around itself in two directions, rather than propagating off in a straight line.  Neither does this effect get any bigger when more energy is added, with the size being wavelength based.  It just gets more and more dense, like a space warp field with surface tension, until finally, when all the stored energy is caused to be released in a flash, it becomes . . . a photon torpedo.  My friend Kiril Chukanov gave a presentation at ISBL3, but his Quantum Macro Object single particle theory isn't mentioned in the article.  Also missing from the list is the Chaos Theory explanation which I adhere to.  This theory holds that the sphere is composed of three flux lines, each folded a number of times and compacted to form the sphere.  One of the flux lines can come from an antenna, in the form of normal EM, with the other two (from another antenna) having the form of a Longitudinal Wave.  Or, EM can come from each antenna, with the earth's flux providing the third line.  A dozen years ago, I took the plastic caps from two green Coleman camping propane bottles and put each one inside a screw cap from a beer bottle.  Then I held them at an angle and showed them to a contact who had come down from Canada for a visit.  He looked at them and said "There it is" without either of us saying what "it" was.  Then he proved his knowledge by asking "How big is it?"  A few years later, on the evening news, I saw footage of three really big, soap bubble like red lights coming up out of the ground out east of Phoenix.  The balls danced merrily around each other as they went up and on out.  So, yes, 'they' have it all figured out.  (This demonstration throws a new angle on extracting Helium Three from lunar regolith.  Ionize it, roll it, then bring it up out of the ground.  No digging required.)

I've played with the MW oven plasmas.  When confined with the top half of a plastic bottle, the color goes through stages, until it's hot enough to melt the plastic.  The most interesting observation was that the plasma boils downwards from the bottom surface, then back up.  But it doesn't form a ball when confined like this, it just takes on the shape of the container's top and stays flat on the bottom.  Except for the boiling.  An inverted Pyrex measuring cup doesn't break until the power is turned off and it cools unevenly.

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I cant get my head around a suspended arc . fundamentals = a neg charge electron is attracted to a pos charge .
a lightning strike / electron flow is going from neg to pos , so BL is what ?   a charge going no where

In some cases, the 'potential' is rolling in quadrature around two axes, magnetically curving nearby potential to do the same.  But there's more than one natural effect described in the literature.  Sometimes the longevity does depend upon on-going energy input from the environment.   Here's a picture of my BL sticking to a wire: