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Re: My 2nd Theory on VIC Chokes of different values
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2011, 21:32:42 pm »
Tony I agree, that's pretty much exactly what I have found as well, resonance between L1 and cell, and L2 restrict amp flow and allows you to produce high voltage across the cell

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Re: My 2nd Theory on VIC Chokes of different values
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2011, 22:22:58 pm »
This is my explanation of how Stan's VIC works. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-x3PVi8wF0

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Re: My 2nd Theory on VIC Chokes of different values
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2011, 23:11:20 pm »
water dielectric would fail with ac with half the voltage it would need if dc.

your theory lack of circuit explanation. What you call 180° i don't believe really is. is simply the opposite polarity.

I think you could achieve that but only with a pair of wfc... don't get limited to the way stan did, try other ways you will learn more about how things work.

For example get a full wave driver and apply 20 volts across the cell and observe the current as you vary the frequency... There is no way to calculate the resonant action frequency only experimentally you can find it.

I believe meyer constructed the variable spacing cell for testing this... 

There is other possibility the inter-winding resonance, i mean between each turn, something keeps blowing my mind, an experiment i made where i burned a transformer into light cause i reached this resonance... it was around 200khz... however i'm not sure. It could be that this kind of light was corona discharge all over the transformer...

If you can have many turns in resonance in series you would have a giant high voltage in the end line... I read about it sometimes, and i think that this destructed my transformer... maybe increasing the linearity of the windings you can get all resonating at the same frequency and increasing the capacitance by maybe putting the coils under oil...   


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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2011, 23:59:05 pm »
Tony,I basically agree with most of what you stated.As for resonance taking place between choke 1 and the cell is where I see it differently.Yes resonance will take place there,but most of the resonance is in choke coil 1 itself.The capacitance in the choke is far greater than the cell.When you tune into resonance,disconnect the cell and see what happens.You will see a voltage drop and the frequency will need to be reajusted to get it back.This happens because you removed the small capacitance of the cell,but it will still resonate without the cell.

Choke 2 is needed to give you the the opposite voltage potential of choke 1.And I do believe you are onto something with the 180 degree phase shift for choke 2.I have never thought about putting the negative choke out of phase.You lit a light bulb in my head over that one.I will be testing that out when I get my new coils wound.
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Re: My 2nd Theory on VIC Chokes of different values
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2011, 01:10:41 am »
Yea if you look at Stan's VIC transformer diagrams he shows the chokes being connected so that the voltages will be 180 degrees out of phase from each other.

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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2011, 01:26:54 am »
No it don't, if you count that each coil has 200v and the botton of the secondary is the earth, you have 200 + 200 so va =+400 and the vb also + 200 so between va and vb is 200

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Re: My 2nd Theory on VIC Chokes of different values
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2011, 01:32:16 am »
the bottom of the secondary isn't connected to a ground at all, it is totally isolated and floating. You can test this Va+Vb with a basic +12v and -12v power supply. Just take and connect a voltage meter to the two outputs, positive lead to +ve and negative lead to -ve and you will get 24v.

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Re: My 2nd Theory on VIC Chokes of different values
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2011, 01:35:30 am »
Stan even shows this in his 9XG diagram and it plainly says, "Floating Ground".