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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2011, 16:35:40 pm »
Hi stevie and mr h2o

I can see what your saying, i shall sort something out. All u need is a large enough ferrite core or grain oriented silicon steel core, machine your spools and populate with iron wire. Only the primary is a critical winding and a problem. I will post a few pics of what i am useing and a circuit diagram.
 
Heres a link for some iron wire, its not ideal but works and is cheap (about £2.50 for 40 metres). Garden wire and others like it are a bit naff.
 
http://www.crazywireco.co.uk/acatalog/Iron_Wires.html or the other just posted
 
Pure iron should give best results, but yes i agree it`s a b*tch to find and when you find it the cost is £75 for 5 metres so thats simply not happening for me.
 
Does everyone get the spintronic science as far as meyers technology is concerned?
 
The wfc document explains how the chemical reaction works, not sure it answers your question stevie, the document was released well before meyers death and appears unaltered and would be difficult to alter haveing never been held under national security. Resonance is not used as current restriction in the vic as implied in the patents, it is used to trigger the explosive gas release. The details of the chemical reaction are beyond me  :(
 
before i clear off the 8xa circuit, if i wind a primary first on each spool (single layer) then on top of each primary wind the other coils, secondary and so on, i believe i have the basis of his older technology, what do you think stevie?

@ Spintronic
About winding secondairys over primary's i can say that that seems to do something. I seen certain OU coils being winded like that. The last i seen was done with cores between the windings. The effect with iron wire would be that the wire it self becomes magnetic. Some sort of saturation.
Its a brand new approach  :)
Looks like KB already made some kind of prove of concept!

@ KB
Whats this KB? Having some nice results but not sharing any video of it????  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2011, 23:08:38 pm »
Steve,
I think it is still simple electrolysis.  8XA with iron wire.  My vic transformer make nice voltage peaks and limits current almost to zero yet makes no gas.  The iron wire experiments continue... 
here's a question...  when meyer's diagram of five pulses on and an off gap is viewed, what does it show?  is it five individual pulses from a pwm or is it five resonant "bulbs" from a resonant frequency situation as seen on the oscope?
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2011, 04:18:00 am »

The 8xa circuit is a variation of the vic matrix circuit it uses the same technology. its just a matter of time when i decide to give it a go before it is made to work
You just need to apply the basic rules.
 
1) Primary flux aligns electron orbit spin in surrounding coils
2) electrons then behave as tiny magnets in ferrous metals with the correct magnetic field applied
3) the north and south poles of each atom attract to each other causeing electron clustering rather than electron flow, i do not know for certain this is how electron clustering happens but i do know it works.

lets look again at the science that makes this happen
 
Spintronics is an advanced form of electronics that harnesses not just the electrical charge of electrons (as in conventional electronics) but also a property called spin that makes electrons act like tiny bar magnets
source  http://leebor2.741.com/spintronic.html
 
So why not use copper wire? (non magnetic, non ferrous)
 
Spin-polarized currents flow well in magnetic materials, but when they enter non-magnetic materials the electrons begin to lose their spin polarization in a process called spin-flip scattering.
source http://www.spintronics-info.com/technical/cold_copper_causes_spin_diffusion
in Copper wire each atom cannot form a north or south pole so meyers stuff will not work.
 
The tiny magnets formed will attract or repel, opposites attract likes repel, so we can start to see how meyers transformer works, like the inhibit choke for example.
 
Here is a new look on meyers vic with some real science to back it up and proven to work. from this we can build his tube system 6 tube assemblys can run a 1.6l engine, The steam resonator and his injector system the complete energy solution. Without his vic none of this can be built.
 
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I am thinking the electrons in the secondary align to form a north south poles (electron clustering) as explained above, the primary can be copper or iron so they do not have to be attracted to the primary inorder to work. If you apply the basic rules at the top of the post there is no reason why the 8xa circuit cannot be made to work. if everyone (thats not a lot) posts replies based on this science we can have less confusion about meyers technology.
kb seems very young to me (no offence kb) and does not come across to me as understanding anything i have posted on my thread.
 
 
 

 

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2011, 07:56:58 am »
"kb seems very young to me (no offence kb) and does not come across to me as understanding anything i have posted on my thread"
and what purpose did this comment serve you?  if anything you've betrayed your youth, in maturity and wisdom...  it IS offensive
my comments and questions are not made to satisfy your apparent sense of superiority in any measure
....make a simple question on your thread to the group about the five pulses diagram and this is the result?
when you have done it then I'll bow, until then I'll keep learning and consider ideas from all here and elsewhere including yours
in addition, however, I shall not refrain from asking questions for fear of insult or insolence
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2011, 09:24:34 am »
@kb
no sense of superiority, no egos, no need for aggression or offensive
no need to delete posts either
I said the wire you are useing is unsuitable and asked several questions about your setup, i got no answer and now you are posting results that the iron vic (8xa circuit) you built does not work. you could not of got the uk wire in 24hr let alone machine and populate them leaveing me confused as to what you are doing. this thread is trying to get a better picture of the science as well as the build which you have shown no interest, its what this thread is about.
I am sorry u have taken deep offence, of course i do not know who you are so my opinion is from your posts only.
lets leave it there
 

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2011, 14:56:52 pm »
Spintronic,
 
I did not delete any posts.  I thanked you for the wire source.  okay dokay, the twisty wire vic worked for the purpose of the experiment that was intended when I wound it.
 
regards,
 
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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2011, 22:41:17 pm »
We are all adults here.Sligtly crazy and a little bit of ego's.
If we didnt had those quality's, then we wouldnot have such hobby like this.
And do not forget the fact that writing posts or emails can be interpretated different as that we would like, sometimes......

KB and ST are reseachers who add good things to our quest..
Its amazing that we still learn new things!

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Re: How to build the vic tried and tested
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2011, 02:57:17 am »
@stevo
wise words indeed, you remind me of either a boxing referee or the instructor from karate kid, maybe a bit of both.

there is a number of people looking at this page, but i have no idea if any have looked into what i am saying. The science is there i have not picked it out of the aether, i have given you links to research, how about a little feedback. The primary winding is very important anybody want to go through it?