My Thoughts on how Meyer split water

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Dear Tony:

I wish you well in 2012 with your enterprise.  Are you interested in sharing how you determine the resonant frequency of your average 3 inch ss tube set?  much obliged..

kb

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Awesome, have you been selling a lot of them?

I've been working on my own design for a while,
and honestly If you guys look at the time and effort it
takes  to design, build, test, redesign etc I think
 it's cheaper just to buy one....i'll be buying one soon.

Yea I started selling them back in July and sold out of them pretty quick. I have made so changes on the current ones that I am selling and they have been selling pretty good as well. I have a limited supply available and I also have kits available as well. It usually takes about 2 to 3 hours to complete one board. Yea you are right about the time and effort to build and design the boards. It took several months to back engineer this circuit and come up with the design.

Hi Tony
with the greatest of respect you have done very well to re engineer the circuit and it is an enterprising person to market the product for the hard toil. It is an achievement to do so. For an educational and scientific view it is a worthy pursuit that should have its rewards.

The fact is no one so far has openly reported absolute success with non electrolyte 100% water cells that run an engine 100% conclusively.

I have always thought of the issue as.... is the entire circuit in its meyer form absolutely necessary and can the component count be reduced for smaller circuit board size.?

 I know people have been told go study the science and electronics to experiment at the level others have. I also know people who have experimented extensively with electrolyte cells, gaps, voltage and % savings off current fuel usage and im told they get gains of between 20 to 40% whilst finding how to keep cells at about 2v and running cool and no or very little contaminant buildup in the cell.

So where to from here? a booster cell for current vehicle efficiency or 100% water as fuel........?

Over the next year I intend to study at my pace the Arduino microprocessor to replace the signal generation portion of the circuit that relies upon a mains supply and frequency as a core frequency for the circuit operation. What I dont know yet is the microprocessor programming (and how to use the 8 PWM they have) and how to properly implement the resonant scanning to raise the rate of scanning and reduce the scanning time to lock on.

To my mind theres 3 distinct sections: the pulse and timing and resonant scanning, 2 The Vic coil and 3 the Cell itself.

Perhaps advancing past the idea of using cells and to the injector and gas processor might be a worthy focus.


with respect


Cheers

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Yea you can pretty much reduce the size by using micro-controllers to simulate what this circuit does. You can use chips such as the 68HC11 to do just this. You can also use PID's chips. The 68HC11's can be a bit tricky in programming compared to a PID. The PID's are pretty easy to program, as the program itself is setup like MultiSim where you just build a simulation circuit and then download the schematic to the chip and there you have it all in one chip. As of right now these VIC circuits are for testing purposes, as more needs to be learned and studies to make a car 100% water efficient.

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thanks, would you have a part number of a useful pid chip i can go research thanks

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You need to also remember that each resonant cavity and VIC transformer are matched. For example, lets say the coil will resonant at 3.5kHz, well the resonant cavity needs to also resonant at 3.5kHz. They have to be matched, just like a coil and antenna of a radio.

More "Thoughts on how Meyer split water":
I think that this resonant frequency is a matched frequency on the molecular resonant frequency what SM called "Tune in on the dielectric properties of water".
If we re-read J.Keely on tuning into the "chord of mass" of the water molecule with a lower octave frequency, he established resonance with the molecule on a higher octave scale. Then when an enharmonic frequency(none harmonic) is introduced (read as GATE modulation: harmoniously adjusted thirds) he disintegrates the bonding "forces" of the water molecule.

He also wrote, this can only be done successful if the molecules are composed of differential atoms weights! In other words:the substance must contain heavy atoms and light atoms. The heavy atom or oxygen in water weights just 16 times as much as either of the hydrogen atoms to which it is joined by chemical affinity. Also this can be done with gas. The hydrogen is a faster atom in respect to the oxygen atom which is slower.

What I think Peter Davey has done is to oscillate the water molecule on the lower resonant harmonic (harmony) frequency using the higher overtone harmonic frequencies to tune into. These accelerated oscillations of the atoms has an effect of heat generation just like microwave (forced) oscillations but on lower energy input.

Comparison to fundamental / Interval to previous tone / Frequency ratio / Tone example / Frequency in Hz
fundamental frequency /   fundamental /  1:1 / C /       65
double frequency /   octave /     2:1/    c    /  130
trifold frequency /   fifth    /  3:2 /   g    /  195
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-harmonics.htm

Problem is what the "chord of mass" is of the "water molecule"?

Chord
In Keely's SVP and music: more than one frequency sounded simultaneously. Modern terminology is vibration signature which is a graphical representation of more than one frequency sounded simultaneously or complex waveform.

The combination of three or more tones played at once. Diatonic c. uses only notes proper to the key. A triad is a chord of three notes in which the lowest is combined with the third and fifth above it. Common c. is a triad in root position. Dominant c. is founded on the dominant of the key. An inverted c. uses a tone other than the root as its lowest tone. Harmony is the study of chords and their relations.

Chord of the Mass
"Every Molecule contained in a homogeneous mass has the same harmonic oscillatory motion, which is the "chord of the mass" governed by the mass aggregation and the mass form. The "chord of the mass" is therefore the fundamental frequency of every Molecule of the mass".
Keely http://pondscienceinstitute.on-rev.com/svpwiki/tiki-index.php?page=chord+of+the+mass

Also if this fundamental frequency is know, then atoms can be split too on this same principle etc. !

Br,
Webmug