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Re: U core vic
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 22:56:37 pm »
Thanks everyone for the replys and compliments!
 
Webmug, You are right! I should have specified; my chokes are 2030 turns and 1900 turns and the secondary is 1950 turns. I wound a primary of 29g wire but it doesn't work very well, I need to wait for my new bobbins to come to make another one. Permubility of the core is 2000. Here is all my info on the core. How can I detect a unipolor pulse? my scope is still not working
 
 http://www.surplussales.com/inductors/pdf/ich-ui-1f4.pdf
 
http://www.surplussales.com/inductors/pdf/ich-ui-1f4.pdf
 
Steve, thanks! It took some time. I'm only using one tube set. I'll add a resister and see what happends
 
Jim, Thanks as well! Don said that too, I just thought they may work even better if they were as close to perfect as possible, and i've been adding caps, I can get high voltage across the caps but it doesn't raise the water caps voltage, so far
 
 

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Re: U core vic
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 06:20:17 am »
I've pretty much finished all the testing I will do with my current setup. nothing out of the ordinary to report. I can't get it to resonate properly or achieve the voltage I would like across my water cap; I will test it again as soon as my new cell is finished. This new cell will be built as close to dons specs as possible, I haven't been able to find a ss tube with a .030" wall. The closest I can find is .028", has anyone found something better?

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Re: U core vic
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2011, 06:36:50 am »
your not getting resonance because your cell has too much current leakage.
I would hazard a guess that your using tap water? Or water with too many impurities. The impurities act like electrolyte lowering your cells resistance. This is all the current in your cell traveling through like it is a resistor rather than a capacitor.
In SM's notes there is mention of different types of water and their amp draw. If possible increase your amp loading on your primary. How much to increase it by is hard to tell but once you hit the point where the amps can't pass through your waters resistance it will bounce back (increasing voltage) and try on the next cycle.
Remember your equation for resistance is "R=V/A"
As i see it, your cell will resonate, increasing in voltage, until it has built up enough volts to allow the applied amps to transfer through the resistance (water). So if your cell will allow your applied amps (note that your applied amps is the OUTPUT from your VIC) to transfer through your cell at 120V then that is your voltage point.
To fix this (as per the above reasoning) you will need to INCREASE your cells resistance, or INCREASE your amp output from your transformer. Just a bit of IMO

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Re: U core vic
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2011, 15:39:39 pm »
thanks for the advice!
you are correct, I am using tap water that I wouldn't even drink haha I can't really change my input power with my setup so I will try distilled water. I never really expected current draw to be the problem, in fact my current reading at the cell is so low that I produce nothing through electrolysis, not even a single bubble. Could this still be an issue?

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Re: U core vic
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2011, 07:16:37 am »
120v @ 1ma is still only 1ma. While you are putting in some watts if your current draw is so low that if you were aiming for brute force electrolysis your production would be tiny.
I bet if you left it on for a while the water would heat up and you would get a tiny beading on the surface of your tubes...