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voltage performs work..
 
  if we were to want to know the resistance of water to voltage we would  need to know its dielectric properties.. (conductivity) stan says rain  water is around 78.54 ohms a millimeter i suppose.. lets say this it  true..  then we could say a cell with 3mm gap is 78.54 x 3 = 235.62  ohms for a water cell with 3mm gap contain rain water?..
 
  so how many amps will water take on per volt?
i think thats the  real question we dont conceive properly..  to induce a field in a space  will change the timeshare rate of electron in a direction providing  amps..  the real question is what is the linear gain in amps to  presence of voltage field that has a sharp rise time.. here is the  answer to the problem... we know how many electrons pass one point in a given second..
 
  well what is the distance traveled of them electrons in one second?.. one  amp crossing the cell how long did it take a electrons to get to the  other side? how ever long that was i would consider it the initial  acceleration of the pulse input for a givin voltage from there on would be amps in  circuit i would think id circuit remain on..
 
  voltage turns off to prevent current..and the field collapses providing  back emf to swing electrons back towards negative so them electrons are  swinging back into balance naturally (universal energy) and then they  are hit with another pulse.. (50 percent duty cycle)  higher voltage  higher frequency because the charge traveling from point A to point B  is speeding up (raising in amps)  in order to know the proper frequency  we need to know the speed  of charge at the a given voltage which can be provided by knowing the  dielectic properties of a substance (resistance of water)
 
  here is the grand finnally my friends
 
  to understand where the energy is it is in amps.. steve is right i think..
  he may of not used amps in the circut  but  he "perpetuated" amps in water..  not only perpetuated but maintained polarity taking away the main cause  of heat which is caused by the switching of the polarty of the di pole  180 in and out rapidly.. "exactly what the steam resonator is doing"..
 
  now i am going to go over how you find out the proptional gain of amps in water per given volt.
 
  first you need to know the dielectic value of water which is 78.54 ohms a millimeter.. (not sure of stans units)
 
  then you need to know your capacitor gap.. example is 3 millimeter
  78.54 x 3mm= 235.62ohms for a 3mm gap
 
   heres what i have been missing and i think most everyone else has too 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens_%28unit%29

  the conductance of water is calculated like this
  the units for conductance (the opposite of resistance) are called siemens
 
G= conductance
  G= 1/R =I/V
  what does this mean?
 
  for the example 235.62  it would be like this
  1/235.62 = .004244122
  conductance is also referd to as siemens
 
  all in all if water is 235.62 ohms then it will have a gain of  .004244122 amps per volt..   you could convert this my 10 to negative 6  power
  4244 microsimens
 
  now lets talk high voltage..
 
  2kv
  2000 x .004244122= 8.488243 amps
  the key is understanding there is a peak inertia traveling across the  cell for a specific amplitude then i think it drops at impact  (connection of transmission in electric perspective i think).. if you  cut off power right before at impact of peak amps on the other side of  the cell they will be rejected by the back emf in the other direction  most importantly it wouls have experienced a jolt of 8 amps ..
  resonant frequency changes with amplitude.. i dont completely understand what im speaking of yet..

all in all by knowing the conductance per giving volt you may determine how long it takes for amplitude to cross the cell providing you with a frequency known as resonance.

this is what i see dont know if im right but i sure do feel as if it is correct..

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amps are not the speed of electrons.. amps is the drift velocity within a wire..

Question:  Exactly how fast do electrons travel?
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Answer:  Electrons can have a wide range of speeds.  A slow case: we know that
electrons move when there is a current flow in a wire, but the speed at
which the electrons themselves move in the wire -- the so-called electron
drift velocity -- surprises most people.  For example, for a copper wire of
radius 1 mm carrying a steady current of 10 amps, the drift velocity is
only about 0.024 cm/sec ! On the fast side: the Bohr model of the hydrogen
atom has the (bound) electron zipping around the nucleus at about 2 million
meters/sec.  And on the very fast side, some examples are: beta particles,
which are emitted by some radioactive materials; and the innermost elec-
trons of atoms of elements having large atomic number, such as uranium.  In
these cases the electrons are traveling at very nearly the speed of light.
(about 300 million meters/sec).
Rcwinther

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy99/phy99092.htm

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Yes outlawstc You are starting to understand! =)


The only thing witch don't make sense is the siemens relation to volt witch you made. Actually the water dielectric is 81 and you really don't want to get 3 mm gap because this will lower the capacitance witch is already very low.


Also The conductance of water is not so linear changed with the distance, it has more to do with the area in cm2 of the electrodes...


Stan say something related to this in the 2 video of the house meeting but I cant understand what he really say.


The amount of current or ions separation increase exponentially with the increase in the voltage field. Not only because electron extraction takes place and h2 is generated ever rising the electric field but because the electric field also create a torque on the water molecule witch induce it to self ionize or raise the rate of dissociation of the water into ions... When stan talk about atom he is talking about H+ ion and when he mention electron he is talking about the OH- ion... He certainly did this to cause confusion...


I'm now starting to be sure that you don't even need to discharge all the current from the ions to generate the gas, because stan said (voltage will generate the gas... so his electron extraction having a lamp, for me mean that we just need to allow a certain level of current witch is just enough to switch of the covalent bounding of water allowing voltage to just pull it apart... this would be perfect because with small current we are going to split a big amount of h2.


I'm thinking here, If we just separate the windings of the alternator having 3 isolated rectified outputs connected to the water, we would find this resonance to occur at a certain rpm. However would be easier if the 3 phases pulses were controlled for a smaller width to seem like a high frequency...


Maybe triggering one phase with the previous using the a 3 phase controller is needed for discharging the ions on the alternator windings...


So many things to think!!!


Tomorrow my alternator will be ready, hopefully.
   

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this pages describes siemens,
it is a measurment you are not familiar with nor am i..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens_%28unit%29

to find out siemens
you have to either A run a specified voltage thre water and read the amps under that specifiv voltage..  this will give us amps divided by volts which that value would be the conductance of water..

or B you could have the resistive value already which you say is around 81 for rain water

the equation G(conductance)= 1/R

if 81 ohms a millimeter
 G=  .0123456789 lol thats kinda funny


simemens gives you the rate at which amps are induced which is dependent apon potential!!!   

when i say linear.. i mean that amp force will climb in water depending apon voltage in linear manner.. when the fuel cell start to produce, the gases change the conductance value and resonant frequency changes because the amount of amperes being induced per volt changes when that changes it means either A your signal is moving faster across cell o or be it is moving slower...  if slower frequency goes down and allows longer dwell time.. if faster frequency climbs to prevent amps..
the thing is all meterials have different resistance they also have there own conductance to charge.. they are kinda the same and are polar views of electric kinda like glass could be be half empty or half full.. all material has its own distinct proportional rate of ability to take on amps with voltage.. it doest mean you need to induce a constant current to induce electrical current .. it can be bursts! burst can be timed to where the force cuts off right at impact on other side of transmission..  when emf reverse due to fall of transformer field that wave of impact is now longer attacted to the tube and collapses.

G=  .0123456789
this mean amps climb .0123456789 per volt of potential induced..
it explains the acceleration of charge dependent apon torqure (volts)..

G x 12v= .14 amps
Gx 100v= 1.2 amps
G x 200v=  2.4 amps
G x 40kv= 493.82 amps

as you can see this shows how amps are induced into a material at different voltages..

the key is the 50 percent duty is allowing you to tune into almost breaking the barrier but not.. then the off time allows it to fall back toward 0.. what causes it to fall back to 0? universal laws!   universal energy helps swing voltage back to 0!!!   so that motion (potential energy)  is stored potential.. it is natural universal energy..

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knowing the resistance of a substance ability to take on electric charge sets the parameters for resonance...

 as stan would say "tuning into the dielectric properties of water"

he can tune in when he knows the drift velocity of charge in water created by a potential (the speed)


what i believe to be the mathmatical parameters of success  are

points a and b    (positive and negative voltage zones) 
1- you need to know the distance between the two

2- the resistance of space between the 2 points (the dielectric resistance to take on        force aka motion) provided by the medium.. water, argon, ambient air etc...

3-with them known you can then set up your circuit to meet the criteria


for instance...

if waters dielectric constant is 81 ohms..  then we need to know its siemens (its conductivity)

1/81= .0123456789
ok this means that water jumps .0123456789amps per volt of potential induced (brought within close enough range)

now knowing waters rate of amp progression per volt you can then mathematically evaluate what your rate of frequency change needs to be in progression as voltage rises.. from 1 volt to infinity..  frequency is raising as voltage rises and is falling as voltage falls at a proprtional ratio

it is so clear now how to mathematically evaluate drift velocity...(by knowing a material characteristic of acceleration)

 you then calculate what the on time is of one volt signal to cross the gap to the point of swtch off you take that time and it is your golden ticket to resonance

that time will increase proportionately to the increase of voltage field pulse!
you would step charge by pulsing within parameter of the acceleration properties of water..

the step charging will allow water itself to become the electrical current progressivly and all energy is dissipated into water generating acceleration.. the acceleration is water gaing electrical current flowing parallel with the tubes (stans pumping/ quenching action)