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Re: What I Think Stan is Doing
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2010, 14:07:46 pm »
Why was my excellent posting deleted ? The truth hurts ? D

The truth is that there is only "hope" for the Stephen Meyers design or the Puharich cell . I berlieve Stephen had his patent rejected .

Rest was all incompleete and non-functionnal , aka Stan's VIC and theories .

I have replicated all the drivers for both , all can be found here . One is a big build , the other has a complicated electrodes .

I believe the Puharich amplifier was done with tubes .

Thats it for HHO , if you cannot see the logic and truth behind this then I will no longer waste my time debating something that will never have any consequence .

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Re: What I Think Stan is Doing
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2010, 17:38:44 pm »
The first and second image below where audio analysis of from the video that Dynodon had posted from the Stan Meyer Estate #3 video, it's the waveform for around 950Hz.  The third image is what I think the waveform should look like at peak electrolysis from all my research.  So like I said, the 1st and second images are from Stan's actual equipment so it's the real deal. The closest I've came so far to replicating this is bye using 630 Hz mixed with 620Hz and the more promising 3980 Hz mixed with 3383 Hz. I just don't have a PLL like Stan's which controls the voltage amplitude.  Which most of Stan's components are obsolete now and most of the circuits can be cut down to single IC's.

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Hi Tony, how do you know that the waveforms you posted below are actualy Meyer`s ?
 
The pictures below are Stan Meyer's waveforms you be the judge to if he was copying Puharich's work!!!

The above photo is the waveform generated by Stan Meyer's actual plate cell setup (8XA circuit).


The above photo is a frequency analysis of the waveform.


This is my representation of Stan's waveform as it is Amplitude Modulated over a 3 sec. period.



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Re: What I Think Stan is Doing
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2010, 15:38:15 pm »
Stan used two methods to split water...first and original method was by using a positive voltage on one plate/tube and a negative voltage on the other plate/tube....the second method involved a combination of his first method and a process known as NMR, Nuclear Magnetic Resonance!!!!!   http://www.GlobalKast.com

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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2010, 23:08:02 pm »
ok....

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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2010, 02:57:07 am »
Lol we have alot of interresting and smart builders on this site seriously , real dam talkative and knowledgeable people ...

People just look at threads like duhhhhhhhhhhhhh ..... interresting ??? ......Me Homer .... Scratch head ..... Duh.....


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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2010, 05:31:59 am »

nice site tony.. it has a nice archive setup very accessible and simple..

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« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2010, 07:55:13 am »
I am still waitin for further analysis and good ideas ....

The .... are for you to continue ur unfinished sentence .


I believe that .... because ... here is maybe how it can work ...

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Re: What I Think Stan is Doing
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2010, 15:43:12 pm »
Stan leaves us clues to this with in his patent diagrams such as why does 90% of his drawings of the pulse trains have three pulses and then a gate? Let me see if I can explain this, in NMR there are two ways to apply the pulses, (1) you apply a 90° pulse and then apply a 180° pulse and then you gate for X time. (2) You apply three 90° pulses and then gate for X time.

So it looks like to me that Stan was applying the three 90° pulses and then gating. During the gated time the water will give an echo know as Spin Echo. Here is what the three 90° pulses do.

After the first 90° pulse, the magnetization vector is exchanging energy   through dipole, dipole interactions and in a time ?, forms what is   often referred to as a “pancake” in the x’-y’ plane. A further 90° pulse   is then applied such that our “pancake” is now in the x’-z’ plane. When   considering the two types of relaxation, spin – lattice and spin – spin   (T1 and T2) we assume the former to take an infinite amount of time as   such allowing the spin vectors to precess about the z axis. Now, the   angle each spin makes with the z’ axis is equal to the angle it   previously made about the y’ axis. At this point any change in angle   that now takes place will require a change in energy thus implying a   spin – lattice interaction is necessary. This implies a permanent memory   of the state of the system as it was at time ?. After a further time ?2   a third pulse is applied and our Magnetization vector is back in the x’   – y’ plane and will lie in the same direction as for a (90 – ? – 180)   spin echo sequence. Then after final delay of ? we   see what is commonly referred to as a stimulated echo. This technique is   commonly used when studying T1 relaxation times. This is because by   measuring the magnitude of the correct echo and its decay with pulse   width separation we can determine T1. The echo magnitude will depend on   the relation, exp(-?2/T1).

Another think I would like to point out is something known as "Magic Angle". The magic angle is a precisely defined angle, the value of which is approximately 54.74°.  It's funny that this angle is half the angle of the water molecule which is 109°28'.  Two nuclei with an internuclear vector at an angle of ?m to a strong external magnetic field, have zero dipolar coupling, D(?m)=0. Magic angle spinning is a technique in solid-state NMR which employs this principle to remove or reduce dipolar couplings.

This is just a part of the NMR process and there is a lot more to it. There is a lot of physics involved here. I'm still working everything out, so this is an ongoing project.

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