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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2010, 05:36:34 am »
I quoted myself, Remove that crappy choke on the choke core I sent. I completely forgot I left that on there. The choke under the tape is what I used, the one over that is where I was just playing with. I don't recommend Biffilar. Just use the 1 choke under the tape and forget the other one.

Please remember, Conductive Tap water, If you have water thats too clean add salt or something. You are proving high voltage in a dead short condition as stan states. We are not looking at gas production here. We are looking at the (potential) which MAY contain an push pull effect on the (Atomic Level.)

Once the water has voltage across it, (you can play with the voltage) to whatever freq you desire. Also, this circuit doesn't put 200 Thousand volts across the water, about 2k.

Once this circuit is understood, A higher potential circuit should be  constructed. I hope you can point out the voltage behavior across tap water with and without the choke, and by removing my choke and trying your own chokes. See how many chokes you can get to work.

As I recall, finding the choke to gain such voltages across tap water is not easy at all, its like finding a needle in a haystack. Perhaps you have a Gold mine of great chokes? If you find some that works as mine works, Please do feel free to share with someone else so they can Too experience this.

We want to know if you can find a choke to like the bulb in parallel with your cells. This is what I am waiting to hear from you, I'm excited to hear if you have any chokes there that can do this across the tap water, Because As I said I tested many chokes and only that very one choke worked the rest Failed!

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As I mentioned, that big transformer is (Weak.) The choke I sent was on a step up transformer, And it was a (Very Nasty) one. It is not really a Bigger setup that will gain the applied 200k, it is the Rato and choke. You see,

You're using a sorry transformer with a great choke, I know that transformer is weak. But, The choke is no good without a transformer. The transformer was removed from the core and a choke was inserted on it, (Voltage potential came.)

The choke core can only hold under 570 wraps of 36 awg, it cant be a ratio of 6. You see, A bigger core would be needed to go to greater voltage potentials, But the big transformer is nothing compared to the little one. The Target goal here is to find the proper cores so you can get whatever size core you desire. Once you establish this foundation you can start making super vic's/Powerfull.


The Tested Choke under the Black Tap may very well contain (Arc areas from abuse.) This can stall voltage points. I admit smoking that choke contained on that core, its arced out but still works. If you replace the wire on the core just the way I have it, you may get higher readings, or you may not. Voltage is produced by the choke and surrounds the choke during operation, Laying it on a table could fry it, Which is why I wrapped it just before I sent it to dynoden.

There are a Few Basics you must learn with (Tap water) before you move on to Distilled.
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So the choke I sent was once a very powerfull transformer, It almost had a ratio of 6 just as in stans patents. Its no longer a transformer. If you manage to find a choke that works up to what i state, Then take my core and turn it back into a transformer, the circuit will be powerful.

Chokes of this type try to arc, Protective coating gets blown off the wire and it starts to arc, which is what happened to that choke core you have. When it arcs it lowers the voltage, its probably arcing under the tap and you don't see it.

Grounds is important, as mentioned. Arcs can shock you at ground points. There is allot to be learned from this circuit.
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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2010, 06:40:55 am »
I think my chokes are lowering the voltage coming out of the step up transformer. Which is why I want to do a careful analysis of it. Chokes should increase voltage even more. The volt meter I have is not going to do the trick... I am going to need a way to read higher voltages accurately, and try a scope.

Tomorrow I will change the water back to tap water, maybe even add some salt to that, and see what it does for keeping the voltage high across the gap. I'll also see if I can get some wire to make a step up transformer of my own to compare, using a flyback core.

Can you comment on the diode? Where is it from? what ratings?

I tried some tests with the light in parallel, and your chokes, with distilled, and it kind of works but it's touchy to how I hook it up, there are two probes on each end of the light, so i can hook the choke wires to one probe on each end, and then hook the cell wires to the other probe on each end, and that lights, but not if the cell wires touch the choke wires... i'll keep playing with it and adjusting it, the light was getting really hot if i run it after the chokes all by itself without the cell attached, then the light is the full load

It would also be nice to get a ammeter on my input from the power supply to see what that is doing...

I wont unwrap your chokes or transformer until I learn more about them as they are and am sure I can make an improvement on them.

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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2010, 07:51:28 am »
Don't add salt just yet.

1. Do not use your Voltage Meter, (Get rid of it.) Don't use any meter for now. You do not need a meter yet. (The light is telling you if voltage is present of not, Not the meter.)
2. Keep the Light in parallel with the cell containing tap water at all times.
3. As I mentioned, Tune as I described in my Early response to this thread!!!
4. REMEMBER, I pointed an (isolated earth ground out,)  Perhaps you should Play with the Ground area and note the difference, and the effect the ground has. As you mentioned it is touchy. Many many times the circuit would fail to work without the proper ground.

Please dedicate more time trying to follow my instructions rather than Playing around, This will get you where you need to be quicker, Then when you get there you'll have all the time in the world to play, and change things around.

But, you have not Clearly

1. Shown my circuit properly connected to fuel cells in (Parallel) containing (Tap water) with a (HV) light ((((((((((((there in parallel with the parallel cells.))))))))))))))
2. The ground, Which helps the circuit start.

Once you manage to do that, and see that it works and lights the bulb, you should then try different chokes and try to get the same performance, And determine by doing so that the choke I sent is indeed abnormal.

Most of the RF waves is coming from the Primary coil of the transformer, this is ((one)) reason your meter will not work. Try placing a calculator by the circuit, You'll notice it comming on and going off, even with no batterys. You might notice near by electronics doing funny things. If you start to get electric shocks in your brain at night or during the day, (Stop with it) for a while.

The light is to show you voltage is there, You don't need a meter to determine this. Once you understand voltage is there the bulb can be removed from the circuit as it pulls the voltage down and affects the total voltage potential.

The light is a ((Tool)) not a component in the circuit.
Rather than using a meter, Research the Minimum amount of voltage required to light that bulb, (That's better than any meter.) You see.

This is somewhat of a slow process, It would go much quicker if you take the time to read over some of my recommendations, Things could get ruled in and out a whole lot quicker.

Perhaps if you had a proper earth ground, you wouldn't be near 2 amps? As i mentioned I only used Millamps to get the circuit to operate, BUT for videoing its understandable to turn it up and make the light brighter. The light does induce stress on the circuit and is for demonstrations only.

Lets get something moving and confirmed here. Lets start by determining if that choke is special, To do that we must follow the given instructions.

FOR RIGHT NOW, you don't need any voltage meters, SCOPES or anything, You don't need this stuff at this moment. FIRST understand what you have. Then later on in the (future) start investigating why it does what it does.

First, you have to determine that it is unique.

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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2010, 08:02:21 am »
If you hotted that lamp you need to get a new one, you could have damaged the atoms inside. Test this lamp with an HV source to determine that its still up to par or else it will leave you scratching your head. If the lamp has abnormal colors its probably ruined. The gas wont excite properly.

If your lucky the lamp is still good, The lamp is a tool, and when abused the tool doesn't perform afterwords.

You're doing great work, Just hang in there. I also recommended replacement of the pots due to dead spots, that could very well make things smoother if you decide to replace them. 

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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2010, 11:21:19 am »
does the neon tube have an internal choke? without it's very dangerous because of the negative inner resistance of the tube after switched on. (first signs are that the tube is getting hot)

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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2010, 18:29:48 pm »
does the neon tube have an internal choke? without it's very dangerous because of the negative inner resistance of the tube after switched on. (first signs are that the tube is getting hot)

He connected the source directly to the tube, With no cell present. Not sure if its damaged or not. It depends on how long he ran it that way.

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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2010, 19:10:45 pm »
Ok, I think I know what is going on and why you see HV right after the chokes.

have you measured or connected the FL tube closer to the WFC it self? I think if u connect the meter or the FL right at the tubes you will not see any HV.

the reason for this is that the wires between the chokes and the cell it self as some inductance properties and most likely the pulses out of the chokes are very sharp and if you able to check the pulse on time, it will be similar in duration as very high frequency pulsing, in the GHz. So a long wire will behave like an inductor.

 

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Re: Re: Testing of Warps chokes
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2010, 19:56:50 pm »
I have touched the light directly to the bolt terminals on the cell and light it up.

Sorry for the short reply, I'm going to sort out some more stuff and then i'll post back.