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Re: 102 plates drycell
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2010, 04:11:09 am »
Hi steve

Its very nice design! So you are going to push 15 amps thru it, wow! I think that maybe you will find resonant useful to do this.
Are you going to use a pump? to force the water?

I have a good news

I learned the other day that atoms have holes that can be filled with electrons every atom have a different configuration.
Oxygen have 2 holes.

When oxygen burn together with h2 the output tend to be h2o because each H fill one of the holes.
If we could charge this oxygen negatively, we would fill this holes. If we was to burn this oxygen with the h2  than water molecule would not reform again. Meyer said that he was avoiding the water to recombine.


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Re: 102 plates drycell
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2010, 05:59:02 am »
Very ambitious design.  Elevated reservior should do the trick.  How are you getting the power to the end plates?  I didn't see any tabs

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Re: 102 plates drycell
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2010, 07:23:07 am »
Ok stevo.. You've already stomped all the records for not using additives, Now you plan to BERRY IT.

Lmao, You rock!

I just wanna see it connected to a (Real 3 phase) power source when you get done playing...

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Re: 102 plates drycell
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2010, 15:30:56 pm »
@Keith
The endplates have an extra extension on who i can hookup my power. Because they are on the inside, you dont see them (well)
A toptank will indead do the job .. :-)

@ Brian
Thanks dude. I must dissapoint you here. This new cell is using KOH, otherwise i never get over 100% Faraday.  However, the cell can also run on tapwater only.

@Fabio
No pump is needed, because of the way its build. Also, the reservoir has lower wateroutlets then gasinputs.
The cell is designed for around max 11 amps. Its normal operation should be a on 8/9 amps. 2kW consumed power when driven on 200V by 10 Amp is the goal.

The facts on missing electrons in outer orbits of atoms was already know by me. Thats exactly the reason why i used negative charge on my airprocessor.
Just like Stan said. Try to stop the re-combining of hydrogen with oxygen. And it works, as i already told you :-)
Maybe we will get the burn, but no water. So what happen to the hydrogen atom?.....no idea, to be honest.


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Re: 102 plates drycell
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2010, 16:46:38 pm »
Hi steve

i was guessing that both ways could work on avoiding the reformation, but while ionizing negatively we can fill 1 or both of the electron holes doubling the number of water molecules forming OH using more oxygen than the original from electrolysis or actually even preventing the reformation in the case we fill both holes, but if we thus ionize positively what would happen is that we could open one more holes in the oxygen atoms allowing it to bound with 3 hydrogens forming H3O witch would be actually avoid the reformation of water molecules as stan described, because for every oxygen there will be 3 hydrogens!!!

This would lead us to have the following:
For every 3 mole of water reacted or 54 grams we would have 2H3O so we are losing 1 oxygen or 16 grams. Thus we would have 38 grams in the end. 70% of the original mass

The negative way lead us to have the following:
For every 3 moles of water reacted or 54 grams we would have 6OH thus having 3 more oxygens creating water ending up with 102 grams. Almost doubling the mass!!! 188% gain in mass

I'm not sure which would work the better! Or witch would gain more energy... but steve now that you have lot of gas you can perform some tests. Try to use more than one stage being one negative other positive and so one. the last one will give you the reversed polarity you want in the end if i'm not wrong. (i read about in some patents about ion generation)

I was thinking that maybe is possible to charge the all engine! to prevent the gas from discharge... .

This would explain the noize recorded in the stan demo video

Thus we can use:

Laser energy to help the atom to get exited
High voltage
Magnetism
Electromagnetism

And we have :

Movement of the air 

Think about steve 

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