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Re: Generation of electricity by usage of moving magnetic fields
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2010, 13:44:09 pm »
Atoms are the smallest individual units of an element that retain the chemical properties of that element. They contain protons, neutrons (in most cases), and electrons. By definition, all atoms are electrically neutral, meaning that they have the same number of protons as electrons. If an atom acquires an electric charge by gaining or losing one or more electrons, it's called an ion.

Ions are atoms that have gained or lost electrons. An atom that gains electrons acquires a negative charge and is called an anion (pronounced AN-eye-on). An atom that loses electrons acquires a positive charge and is called a cation (CAT-eye-on).

"Element" is an umbrella term for all of the atoms that have the same atomic number. For example, every atom that has 8 protons belongs to the element called oxygen. The term "isotope" is slightly more specific, referring not only to atoms that have the same atomic number, but also the same mass number. Oxygen-16 refers to every atom that has both 8 protons and 8 neutrons. Oxygen-17 is part of the same element as Oxygen-16 (and has the same number of protons) but is a different isotope because it has a different number of neutrons and therefore a different mass.

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« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2010, 20:05:40 pm »
the reason why the hydrogen is rejected from bonding when they high energy state oxygen grabs the electron is because the proton mass of the oxy is repelling the proton mass of hydrogen while pulling the electron

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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2010, 15:10:06 pm »
the reason why the hydrogen is rejected from bonding when they high energy state oxygen grabs the electron is because the proton mass of the oxy is repelling the proton mass of hydrogen while pulling the electron

Does it grap the electron, or does it make a bond?


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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2010, 15:44:21 pm »
i would say 8 proton oxy having only 4 electrons would hold electrons twice as close then a balanced oxy unless being acted on by an external force that will accelerate the orbital electrons to maintain a further orbit

the oxy tries to balance it self due to the fact its missing to many.. its all simple math.. 8 protons 8 electrons = 0 neutral.. 8 protons 4 electrons= +4 electrical electrical charge....  the oxy will not want the proton of hydrogen to amount to 9 protons and 5 electrons.. i will say that once hydrogen looses it electron oxy going from having  4 electrons to 5 it will appear to the hydrogen as +3 and will not interact with it until a chain reaction occurs..   water we know has 2 protons for hydrogen and 8 for electrons =10  so and has 10 electrons =0 net charge... the wounderful thing about water is its a dipolar and can be alligned between opposite polarity fields.. this means its able to be stableized while exciting into higher state which i believe is where u are oscillating the orbital electrons as stan calls particle oscillation.. just as if the moon was to speed up it would fall into further and further out orbits due to the fact that its speed and velocity is beating the gravitational attraction of earths density... right now you see maintream working on particle accelerators trying to make antimatter (real vacuum)  there is density in all the universe even space.. light is a elementray particle therefore it is density.. to make a vacuum is to have the weight of the entire universe trying to concave it in.. they are focusing on accelerating higher densitys (protons) we are focusing on accelerating way smaller density called electrons.. which one seems easier to generate acceleration in a bigger mass or smaller?

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Re: Generation of electricity by usage of moving magnetic fields
« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2010, 01:18:14 am »
I think that watching to these two videos you are going to be able to understand what meyer meant by particle oscillation as energy generator. And probably how his gas got exited...

This principle can help us to understand how to accelerate the gas inside the epg. How to maintain it ionized and if you come back to resonance also how to do it economically... Remember that stan said that he multiplied the frequency by 2 so full wave bridge rectifier. For this case...  I believe it can really work and that can be too dangerous so attention working on this...
 


http://techtv.mit.edu/videos/1049-conducting-ping-pong-ball-between-capacitor-plates

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Re: Generation of electricity by usage of moving magnetic fields
« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2010, 04:22:50 am »
If you remember the wave guides he shown WWWWWWWWWWW   it is = to the movement of the ping pong ball

So basically the frequency of this wave (and acceleration of particles) will depend on the water or gas density spacing between the plates and the ion current that will flow. I see application for this only with the injector, steam resonator and or his hyperdrive technology. Don't believe it can do other than hot water in a cell under water... 

I can be wrong...
 
It is useful in the epg and gas processor too.



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Re: Generation of electricity by usage of moving magnetic fields
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2010, 05:34:41 am »
If you remember the wave guides he shown WWWWWWWWWWW   it is = to the movement of the ping pong ball

So basically the frequency of this wave (and acceleration of particles)

That is a most remarkable theory .

I have tought the same and that is the only possible wavelenght that can ever be even remotly related to a makeable size cell .

A tuning fork has their resonant wavelenght in the audio ranges in all makeable size cell , thats in air .

Roughly ,  matching an electrical signal to a stainless steel tube   will have a propagation speed be a bit lower than speed of light . . Same for electromagnetic waves .




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Re: Generation of electricity by usage of moving magnetic fields
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2010, 03:53:21 am »
Yes dankie it is...

The acceleration of the particles depends on the voltage. I learned this when I studied about the photoelectric effect. And collision.

Basically  An electron will gain kinetic energy when it fly towards a positive electric field. The gain in ev ( speed in meters per second) will be equal to the electric field voltage. It will gain 1 ev per volt in the electric field. Is like gravity acceleration (force) so ^2 squared.

I believe charged particles do the same but as they are atoms not only electrons they polarize second to the voltage field is close to it. I mean like the ping pong ball. When it charges positively its repelled by the positive field and attracted by the negative field, when it comes closer to the negative field it again change its polarity and is repelled by negative and attracted by the positive. As it have a bigger mass probably the acceleration will be less than 1ev per v. Will depend on the charge of the particle and its weight.

This would be the principle behind particle oscillation as energy generator

So i though time ago if i can accelerate the articles or electrons up to high ev i could ionize the oxygen like meyer said by collision.

To obtain free electrons i plained to use laser and a low working function electrode.

As i had no money to test this i didn't proceed to test it.

What i'm not sure is, if the electrons or charged particles touch the electrodes or the electric field, the voltage will discharge to some degree or not.

Stan stated an electric field could do work while not being consumed.

i don't know if the charged particle will change polarity when touch the electrode discharging it or if this transition of charge will happen like between the electrodes....

The wave guide stan showed us i believe that is the same as the particle movement during its travel in between the voltage zones. it goes like this because or of the movement of the flow of the gas or water or whatever he was using.

Now thinking about how could this work in true system we need to understand how many charges we need to have to do to achieve what he was doing. I think is a very big number from my calculations.

Charged particles are also influenced by magnetic field...

somewhere i read the particles would start to spin in a certain condition. Like a vortex that meyer showed.  I don't remember where is the document (it was an university document).

so here some info on particle acceleration and a simulator very nice.

http://agni.phys.iit.edu/~vpa/dcacceleration.html
http://www.pelletron.com/tutor.htm
simulation:
http://phet.colorado.edu/simulations/sims.php?sim=Photoelectric_Effect