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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2009, 06:27:35 am »
The setup you posted is the setup where stan Claimed to Produce 7 Liters of hydrogen a Minute.

2) Tested Gas Rate, 1 liter cavity @ 7 Pounds Per Minute Gas Production Rate.
3) 1 Liter Cavity = 1000 cc of gas volume = 1 Lb of Gas Pressure.
4) 1000 cc x 7 Lbs/Min = 7000 cc Gas Volume / Min.
5) 420,000 Cc Hourly, (7 liters a Minute)

A 1 liter cavity at 1 Psi is said to be equal to 1 Liter of hydrogen.
A 1 liter cavity at 7 Psi is said to be equal to 7 liters of hydrogen.

"(A 1 liter cavity at 1 Psi is no where near 1 liter of hydrogen!
A 1 liter cavity at 7 psi is no where near 7 liters of hydrogen!)"

7000 Liters Per min / 9 tube cells equals 777.78 cc of gas per tube per min. 12.9 CC per ("Second") per Tube.

777.78 * 9 tubes equals 7000 Liters per min.

12.9 cc per second, Per Tube 116 cc of gas ("Per Second") for all 9 tubes, 116 * 60 seconds 7000 liters/Min.

There is such a Gas law, Volume Temp Pressure Mass, The math applies! However, No calculation is needed when you can simply test a 1 liter cavity under the pressure of 1 or 7 Psi, and measure the gas as it is released. It is Impossible for a 1 liter cavity to contain 7 liters of gas, ("Any Gas") at 7 psi!

I doubt the sum of stans entire cell could have held 6 liters. Depending on his "ID" determines the Depth needed to Create such a 1 liter cavity. In my case, A depth of about 2.5" to 3" (Forgot) at 5.75 ID at 1 to 7 Pounds of Pressure.

I was also able to Gain 7 Psi in almost minute using a (1 liter cavity,) Which confirms you can produce 7 psi in one minute using a 1 liter cavity, Very possible, However the Stored gas is not equal to 7 liters, More like half a liter.

Stan; Create a 1 liter cavity, Let your production Pinpoint 7 Pounds of pressure in one minute, Let the 7 Pounds of Pressure Be 7 liters of hydroxy.

Done, Everything works perfect, Accept you will not measure 7 liters, only 0.5.   


12.5 volts across 9 tubes at 40 amps is Full waved at 2 diodes, Where 6 diodes would have given a Much higher voltage reading across the 9 tube cell, Assuming he Drawed 4.4 Amps Per Tube at a Very LOW Voltage Would Confirm very contaminated water.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2009, 06:47:49 am »
With my current setup I can't have a one liter "cavity" because my tubes go near the top, I might have room for a half liter cavity.

I should try some tests like this to wrap my head around it better.

However, these are not the results we really need to replicate, he wasn't using this when he was running the dune buggy. I'm more interested in the fact he was maintaining 13.75 psi and idling the dune buggy, that would have to be some nice production, and it was using the Rotary VIC. This was also with 5 volts and 2 amps on the alternator, which doesn't count the load from the motor, but I can put that much across my alternator with a half horsepower motor, which is up to 370 watts, so it might appear he was using even less than 370 watts to idle that dune buggy? We know the VIC Coil was designed to run on 40 watts. It only makes sense that his systems required less and less power as he built newer ones.


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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2009, 08:18:14 am »
You are Cheating if your tubes are sticking up outta the water into the cavity... I'll bet if you cheat, a 1 liter cavity still wouldn't equal 7 liters of hydrogen at 7 psi;)

You wouldn't be cheating by much though. Come to think about it. Just because he remained pressure at 13.75 doesn't mean he was producing an entirely lot, He could have had an 100 cc to remain at that pressure.

However (Gas Law), When you release a Gas Vapor From under Pressure, (Pressurizing gas causes Heat) and hydrogen is the number 1 gas that Reacts to heat, Into a Lower Pressure Line or (Condenser) there will be a Drop in Temp In the Line because it acts as an condenser and there results A Liquid synthetic gas, Also, When a Gas rapidly converts from a High Pressure to a Lower pressure conversions take place, Or lower temp to higher or even incorperated and vice versa.

Ambeint air can also be converted into Lox by pulling the plug on an air compressor, "It can Freeze your hand also."

Stans Water Splitter was Defined to be an Expansion valve/Metering device as seen in his video, Those are Built to be set according to the type of refrigeration your running, "They have set screws," However theres no telling what stan done to it. 

As i remember, When i thought I "Ionized the gas" I later found out I was at a High pressure using a "Metering device" to release the gas into a Line at a lower pressure, There resulted in a Wet Flame 11 inches in length. That was when i thought the bug zapper ionized the gas, However the bug zapper had nothing to do with it, it was the "Temp Pressure change that caused it." I was so agravated about certain things that I never told anyone other than stevie when i found out how it was done. No wonder i couldn't never do it again, The gas in the cell has to be warm and the pressure has to be Leaked threw a metering device to a lower pressure line before this conversion takes place.

I'm wasting to much thread space, Sorry. 

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2009, 08:46:44 am »
I wouldn't run the cell with the water level below the tops of the tubes, that's why don't have room for a one liter cavity... right now... I do have a longer acrylic tube ready to be used, I just need to make a longer rod to hold it.

I agree you don't need to produce much to maintain pressure, but if you are only making 100 cc/min then you only get 100 cc/min to run the engine, and his engine was 1500 cc, probably going 700-1100 rpm at idle, and he was using the exhaust gas to modulate the burn rate, and the exhaust was coming out cool, so he might even have been burning the hydrogen at an even lower speed and temperature than gasoline.

I don't understand how 7 psi in a 1 liter cavity is 7 liters of gas, it is odd that he would do the calculations like that, they are two different unit systems... imperial and metric... mixed together... and somehow they line up with perfect round numbers, but I don't think it's important to get caught up over calculations. We know he had success regardless of these calculations.

I will do some tests on a measured cavity size, and time my psi, currently only have a 5 psi gauge, but like I said, my cell is 7% the size of Stan's, so I don't expect his same production.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2009, 23:36:47 pm »
The electric motor for Stans demo cell is one hp.It is a large ford alternator.I've seen it first hand and it was at 1725 rpm.The pulley ratio is @ 2:1.
As for the 7 psi equals 7 litres,test it.Just take a one litre bottle and presurize it to 7 psi,then do a inverted bottle test and see what comes out.Also remember that once the pressure is gone you still have one litre left in the test bottle.
Easy enough to test.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2009, 23:58:56 pm »
The electric motor for Stans demo cell is one hp.It is a large ford alternator.I've seen it first hand and it was at 1725 rpm.The pulley ratio is @ 2:1.
As for the 7 psi equals 7 litres,test it.Just take a one litre bottle and presurize it to 7 psi,then do a inverted bottle test and see what comes out.Also remember that once the pressure is gone you still have one litre left in the test bottle.
Easy enough to test.

Yes, The alternator Produced 12.5 volts at 40 amps, 500 watts of electrical energy. The Driver motor you say is rated for 1 Hp, It is very Understandable that not all of the Hp was needed to cause 500 watts to appear out the alternator, However if there was 1000 watts going to the fuel cell that 1 Hp motor could not have handled it.

Why do i point this out? This Confirms stan full waved with 2 diodes, The voltage across the cell also confirms it. If he Full waved with 6 diodes there would have been higher voltage across the cell, and more current flow would be needed, And, More gas would have been produced.

If you fill a 1 liter bottle up with Air, and pressureize it to 7 Psi, you would think there would be 7 liters there, However test confirms that is not the case. The way you worded that can very well cause doubts because just by reading it the reading is thinking, "I has to be 7 liters" by dynodons method.

I stated, "I done such a test as you described, and the results for 7 Psi in a 1 liter cavity was 500 cc's of gas measured." If there had have been 1 liter left in the cavity at "0" Pressure then just add that to the 500 cc measured, 1.5 liters. But, that is also not so, I would have be "Dancing around the room." 

If that was so, I would have been running engines a long time ago. 



However, I mentioned a while ago that I had a secret to share, that i would have to shoot a video. I have not got around to do ing this. It is related to Pulsing pressure out of a Volume cylinder containing any gas. The test shows what you have pointed out about the 1 liter staying in the cavity, However, Capping it with a Psi gauge, "You can watch the pressure rise." I will video this when i get the time.

The test Proves that Pulsing/Releasing Gas spirts at high pressures can cause a Growth to accure inside the cavity, and the growth can be Read using a Psi Gauge which is why it will take a Video to explain such a thing.

In other words, It is possible to Pulse out gas, and Remain at a high Psi, Something happens to the mass of the gas when the "Pressure changes" inside the cylinder. It could be that the liquide synthetic gas created by .05 liter is equal to 7 liters of hydroxy gas.

Now, everyone understands something "Strange" about that test report, And when someone confirms what i'm saying to be true it will be even stranger. Lets wait and see what donald says after he tests the cavity, Lets see if the results are suprising to him. 

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2009, 02:46:38 am »
Yea my results were low, but I do have a tiny cell! I should build a full size cell just like stans...

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2009, 11:44:21 am »
Where does it state that the 12.5V is accross the tube?
12.5V is the primary coil voltage, voltage across the cell is determined by the rotor speed.

but then again, 12.5V is called electrical attraction force
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