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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2009, 07:26:30 am »
Hydro I disagree , this is unconventionnal electrolysis .

There is no need for electrolyte , that is a major factor .

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2009, 10:24:18 am »
Webmug, thanks for the picture, however it looks extra complicated :)

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None of you are explaining why pulsing the rotor is good, so here I am at my same conclusion, and yes, adjusting rpm will change frequency, so sure, adjusting the rpm of the drive motor is a better option than pulsing anything. Did Stan actually control the rpms from the drive motor? I am starting to seriously consider this option, however the research I have to back up that idea is slim.

I do have a VFD laying around, Variable Frequency Drive, I might look into that for controlling my drive motor if I figure that is useful.

Pulsing the rotor: It is a way to inhibit amps and to get little bumps on top of your squarewaves.

@all: As is shown in the Testreport, Stan was using around 40 AMPS in his alternator setup.
        So, where do you read that his alternator was doing something different?

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2009, 18:09:59 pm »
40 Amps includes his Drive Motor, he might be using 5 amps in the alternator and 35 amps in the motor. I haven't figured out why he needs such a big motor yet, i'm using a half horse power and it will trip the 10 amp breaker if I load it heavy. I've read in the International Report that he uses a 2000 W motor, and some simple math says you might be able to put up to 50 amps into a motor that big, I haven't checked with an actual motor like that though.

But think about this, if your whole system uses 3000 watts for example, and you get enough gas to power a 5 hp motor, then you come out on top by a whole horsepower. Once you are on top by 1 horsepower, nothing is stopping you from being on top by 50 horsepower and then driving your dune buggy down the road.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2009, 20:07:03 pm »
40 Amps includes his Drive Motor, he might be using 5 amps in the alternator and 35 amps in the motor. I haven't figured out why he needs such a big motor yet, i'm using a half horse power and it will trip the 10 amp breaker if I load it heavy. I've read in the International Report that he uses a 2000 W motor, and some simple math says you might be able to put up to 50 amps into a motor that big, I haven't checked with an actual motor like that though.

But think about this, if your whole system uses 3000 watts for example, and you get enough gas to power a 5 hp motor, then you come out on top by a whole horsepower. Once you are on top by 1 horsepower, nothing is stopping you from being on top by 50 horsepower and then driving your dune buggy down the road.

Thats why I'm using a variable speed drive to keep the motor running at fixed speeds.
Even when the magnetic field in the alternator is building up, the motor will be regulated at the desired RPM with the load.
Perhaps Stan did not used this because it was not the KISS method and used a big motor to keep the alternator spinning, even when it was creating big magnetic forces to slow down the motor. So he used a big HP motor to keep the alternator spinning. This big motor needs a lot of current without a variable speed drive.

My variable speed drive can deliver 10 amps at max. But this is only when the motor runs and when the alternator is creating big magnetic force at the pulley. Normally its using less than 170 watts of power.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2009, 02:18:32 am »
40 Amps includes his Drive Motor, he might be using 5 amps in the alternator and 35 amps in the motor. I haven't figured out why he needs such a big motor yet, i'm using a half horse power and it will trip the 10 amp breaker if I load it heavy. I've read in the International Report that he uses a 2000 W motor, and some simple math says you might be able to put up to 50 amps into a motor that big, I haven't checked with an actual motor like that though.

But think about this, if your whole system uses 3000 watts for example, and you get enough gas to power a 5 hp motor, then you come out on top by a whole horsepower. Once you are on top by 1 horsepower, nothing is stopping you from being on top by 50 horsepower and then driving your dune buggy down the road.

40 amps 12.5 volts 500 watts.

40 amps / 9 tubes = 4.4 amperes per tube, 12.5 volts per tube. 12.5*4.4 amps = 55 watts per tube.

55 watts * 9 tubes = 495 watts, The Driver motors amperage was not included, We know he used a 2k watt motor.

"Hint"

As stan states he used a DeReguLated Alternator. The Known Voltage across 9 of Stans Tubes was 12.5 "With No Regulator."

Why was the voltage not 30 to 50 across the tubes, "Because a Load Brought the voltage Down to 12.5 volts @ to diodes Full"

Experiment; Was not possible to get the voltage down to 12.5 Volts across 9 Tubes,, Solution, 2 ways to full rectify, The Solution to gaining 12 volts instead of 25 is Full recting with 2, Or 3 Diodes, That will Bring the voltage down.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2009, 02:22:42 am »
Hydro I disagree , this is unconventionnal electrolysis .

There is no need for electrolyte , that is a major factor .

40 Amps, (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((""""""""""""""""4.44 Amperes Per Tube"""""""""""""""""""))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))), Nothing Unconventional about that at 12.5 volts, Ehh... As i Stated, Stan was NOT producing 7 liters a min, He lied!

As i Stated, It is NOT POSSIBLE for 7 PSI in a 1 "Liter Cavity" to be Equal to 7 Liters of gas!

(""I Done the test, I confirmed it") Now, you confirm it, you see stan lied.

Reverse Engineer the Test of Evaluation Report, You will be Stumped at what you find, I reverse engineered it ("Hands On")
So Please, Take this under Consideration.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2009, 02:31:13 am »
EveryBody Here just learned 1 thing, That is, As stan stated 12.5 volts to be across the 9 Tubes. You should Know this is not Possible with 6 diodes, You have Now just confirmed he HAD to be using 2 Diodes, The 3rd Diode is OPTIONAL, You do not have to have that diode.

Also, using 3 diodes, Means Less Gas output. Reverse engineer stans work guy's, Get that report and break it down as i have already done, The Report was monitored in process, Somebody got "Slicked" and the report was given.

Btw, Salt water gave the most gas production. If you read, you will see that cleaner water gave less gas output. Additives Destroyed the system AS STATED in the report.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2009, 05:40:53 am »
Hydro, these results


are for the Delco Remy Alternator, not the Rotary VIC, which is the Ford Alternator

So... it still says it is better than electrolysis, what exactly was different about your results?

I have the same setup, however by tube length by cell is 7% of his, so it's not really balanced for power source vs cell size.