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Re: AC electrolysis
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2009, 06:09:14 am »
well it was Prestridge I was thinking about...   I'd say yall done read that anyway being Stan referanced to it, not really to do with ac electrolysis.Horace Heffner done some expieriments with AC electrolysis.Prestidge seemed to play on the works of Cotrell... maybe worth reading his work ??

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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2009, 15:18:34 pm »
Newguy ,

Around here if you wanna pass on information about a document , you link the document . Better yet , you read the document and take pics of he important quotes you think are relevant and helpful for our research .
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2009, 21:42:02 pm »
Newguy ,

Around here if you wanna pass on information about a document , you link the document . Better yet , you read the document and take pics of he important quotes you think are relevant and helpful for our research .

Prestridge was referanced by Stan Meyers,Cottrell was referanced by Prestidge.... I dont have referance links ,sorry Dankie.I also do not have referance links to Horace Heffner sorry Dankie,if I had referance links I would link them but I dont.... sorry Dankie.

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Re: AC electrolysis
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2009, 13:54:40 pm »
Logic,

How high do you wanna go in frequency?
I think it can go up in ghz if you want to.

Steve

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Thx Steve, but my post is supposed to be more thought provoking than anything else.
I simply wanted the get people thinking on the microscopic level about what is happening to the water molicules in a cell.

At the moment I have 2 lathes, a milling machine, and a whole lot of other engineering equipment stuffed to the ceiling in a single garage!  So no building or experimenting for me untill I get the stuff ito a big enough premisis.

However:  Let me be the 1st to admit that I know very little about electronics and circuit boards etc.
So any info and diagrams are welcome thx.
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Re: AC electrolysis
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2009, 19:01:36 pm »
I thought this would relative to the topic.

I did an experiment last night since someone told me AC electrolysis doesn't work so I had to prove it to myself using Puharich's patent as a guide (sort of).

I had gotten a low watt inverter circuit to play with a while ago to replace the one that burst into flames previously.  It had a short somewhere in the tubular array I was using.  Poof.

Anyway the circuit came without a center tap transformer.  One wire connects positive and the other 2 wires switch to ground.  I connected the positive to all the outside tubes and one ground wire each to half of the set of inside electrodes. I used one diode after the positive between the inverter and wfc.  It worked but not especially impressively and different coil configurations except for one would trigger a breaker in the circuit.  At least no flames this time.  I'm now considering daisy chaining the pwm that I have inbetween the inverter and the wfc.  Fingers crossed.

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Re: AC electrolysis
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2009, 22:10:05 pm »
I thought this would relative to the topic.

I did an experiment last night since someone told me AC electrolysis doesn't work so I had to prove it to myself using Puharich's patent as a guide (sort of).

I had gotten a low watt inverter circuit to play with a while ago to replace the one that burst into flames previously.  It had a short somewhere in the tubular array I was using.  Poof.

Anyway the circuit came without a center tap transformer.  One wire connects positive and the other 2 wires switch to ground.  I connected the positive to all the outside tubes and one ground wire each to half of the set of inside electrodes. I used one diode after the positive between the inverter and wfc.  It worked but not especially impressively and different coil configurations except for one would trigger a breaker in the circuit.  At least no flames this time.  I'm now considering daisy chaining the pwm that I have inbetween the inverter and the wfc.  Fingers crossed.

Andy

Very good Andy. Keep on testing! I like that very much  :)
Good to hear you control the flames, this time... ;)

About your test, i think it all came back to old electrolysis....
I think the schematic of Puharich canonly work with thaty special ceramic stuff he used on his electrode...


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Re: AC electrolysis
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2009, 22:50:33 pm »
Hi Steve,

I reconfigured everything so center is positive and outer is ground path.  Haven't daisy chained the pwm yet I need some connectors but the inverter circuit is working switching at 60 hz or thereabouts.  Center is charged and 3 of 6 tubes get discharged back and forth in a circular motion.  It's similar to what Dr. Cramton is doing except with one phase instead of 3.  Patrick Kelly updated chapter10.pdf if anyone is interested.  Bifilar coil is connected between the inverter negative switches and outer tubes in parallel if it makes any difference.  I tried it in anti-parallel but the inverter didn't seem to like it.  Watching temperature now.

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Andy

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Re: AC electrolysis
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2009, 02:59:04 am »
Ok temperature climbed from 70F to 100F over around 5 hours.  Interestingly the bifilar coil I was complaining about being hot in Bubz's thread running from a pwm is cool and it's buzzing.  The diode is still hot but not as much; I can keep a finger on it without getting a blister burn.  Tubes are wired parallel so each set of 3 is getting 12-14 volts and switching between the sets at around 60 hz.  I don't see any steam yet.  Production seems less than running with the pwm.

Andy